CAIR: No Comment?
Today on Fox News Channel, there was some discussion of the documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West
, recently released on DVD. The moderator of the discussion stated that CAIR had been invited to participate in the discussion, but had declined.
Now, why is that? One would think that such a discussion on cable news would be an excellent opportunity for CAIR (1) to debunk the film and (2) to issue a call for moderate Muslims to speak out against Islamic radicals.
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Is CAIR's Ahmed Bedier Censoring YouTube Comments?
Meet the dashing, elegant Ahmed Bedier:
He is the Executive Director of CAIR's Tampa, Florida chapter. About 7 months ago, he became a YouTube member and is a YouTube Director. You can see his CAIR propaganda on his blog and on YouTube (here).
On several of his YouTube videos, you can find him responding to what he would call "Islamophobic" (argumentum ad hominen) comments against his organization and Islamic issues in general. He seems like an open-minded person then, right? If he's replying to YouTube user comments, then surely he has little to hide!
Well, not quite.
Let's examine a couple of the YouTube sites in which Director Bedier (YouTube username bedier) posted CAIR propaganda, and judge for yourself how the comments were handled:
The video comments section can be found here.
If you compare it with the screen shots of the site taken during the first week of October 2006 (below), you will notice that several comments have been deleted, and commenting was subsequently disabled.
Guess which comments were deleted?
Red highlights and text on the screen dumps were added to pinpoint the deleted comments. The YouTube username at the top of the first screen dump was also removed. Other than that, these screen dumps are authentic.
Click on each image to see it enlarged:
The comments deleted were:
"oh i forgot there is mercy on apostates they have time to repent"
"it true, but if ur a muslim u have to be all ur life well it my choice..."
"i left the strong cult in peshwar pakistan 4 years ago i am born again made new with the lord amen read the gospels people abz amen"
"All the Quranic verses bedier mentions are from Meccan suras which were introduced by Muhammad when he lived in Mecca and he had few followers. When he moved to Medina, he became more powerful and that's when the violent Medina Suras were introduced. Most Islamic theologians agree that the 'peaceful' verses about were abrogated by the verses of the sword, especially in Sura 9. More details to follow."
"And even if AI is anti-Muslim, so what? If it said 1+1 = 2, will you say it's not true? Why not refute the message instead of attacking the messenger?"
"Sura 9 is the last sura in the Quran. The first part of it was read to the Muslims and idolators in Mecca by Ali ibn Abi Talib. He told the idolators to convert to Islam or die within four months. Quran 9:5 gave the Muslims permission a green light to slay all the idolators wherever they find them. This last Sura abrogates all the other ones you pointed out. You're full of Taqiyya (Islamic deception)."
"And no, this has nothing to do with self-defence. Muhammad raided Mecca after breaking a treaty with the pagans. The Qurans says so itself: Quran 9:3: "And an announcement from God and His Apostle, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage, - that God and His Apostle dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans."
Gee, all these comments must be hate speech, eh? This comment, on the other hand, was not deleted (bold text is my emphasis):
"abdul rahman should of been hanged. sharia only aplies to muslims, non muslims are allowed to worship how they want"
It gets worse:
It's not just genuine criticism of Islam that Bedier seems to be concerned about. During his/her conversation with Bedier on the same site, pundit1234 points out well-known facts about CAIR's connections with Saudi Arabia:
Hey, at least Bedier did not directly lie about it as Ibrahim Hooper did, right? He just quietly deleted the comment without refuting it with lies, hoping no one will notice. But noticed others did.
The video comments section can be found here.
In this section, comments are not disabled (yet?), but comments submitted do not appear on the site until they are approved.
About a month ago, the following comment was submitted on that site - not very different from the one posted in Case 1:
"I personally don't trust CAIR. It is well-funded by Saudi Arabia. In 2002, the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), that is supported by Saudi Arabia, announced its cooperation with CAIR on a $1 million PR campaign. In that same year, Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal funded CAIR with $500,000.
Let's also not forget that Saudi King Fahd pledged $8 million to build a mosque at the Masjid Bilal Islamic Center at South Central Los Angeles."
The screen dump shows the comment being typed in, followed by a dialog box indicating that the comment is awaiting approval.
Nothing hateful, right? All factual. Not the nicest news one wants to hear, but it's true.
As you can see on the site, new comments commending Bedier were posted, but not the above comment.
Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs mentions another incident.
CAIR loves to speak about equal rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and democracy. However, it's getting clearer and clearer to more non-Muslims, day after day, that the likes of CAIR love the aspects of democracy that support their agendas, not more. Want to criticize other religions and make anti-Semitic remarks? "Freedom of speech!", CAIR screams out (it is indeed legitimate for the former). Others criticizing Islam or CAIR by using authentic sources? No, they'll fight that with their lawsuits and accusations of hate speech.
Indeed, if Ahmed Bedier were to be the President of the United States, you bet your boots he will toss the human values he preaches today ("It is time for people of conscience to rise above their fears and work with each other for the common good of all humanity.") right out of the window.
This is what CAIR doesn't want you to know: CAIR: Islamists Fooling the Establishment.
It won't end with censorship:
This will only get worse. You see, Bedier's censorship is actually not how mainstream Islam handles criticism. The tradition of the founder of Islam, Muhammad, was that critics should be assassinated.
Before you start throwing accusations of me hating Islam, I'll simply quote the Islamic sources on one example: The assassination of Ka'b ibn al-Ashraf, who after the Battle of Badr in March 624 "composed amatory verses of an insulting nature about the Muslim women." [Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah (The Life of Muhammad), the oldest biography of Muhammad]
The story continues:
Excerpt from Sahih al-Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." ... He came to Kab at night along with Kab's foster brother, Abu Na'ila. ... Kab bin Al Ashraf came down to them wrapped in his clothes, and diffusing perfume. Muhammad bin Maslama said. " have never smelt a better scent than this... Will you allow me to smell your head?" Ka'b said, "Yes." Muhammad smelt it and made his companions smell it as well. Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him."
If this didn't shake you, the assassinations of Abu Afak and Asma bint Marwan will shock you more.
These people were killed simply because they criticized Islam's founder and Muslims. Hence, the inability of the likes of Ahmed Bedier to accept criticism and refute it logically is expected from them. Unless America stands up against these Taqiyya fifth columns, it will only be a matter of time before killing Americans critical of supremacist Muslim groups will be commonplace. Europe is now suffering the consequences of tolerating the intolerant.
You don't think so?
Ask Theo van Gogh why he was shot and stabbed to death.
Ask Salman Rushdie why he's been living in hiding for more than fifteen years till today.
Ask the translators and publishers of The Satanic Verses why they were attacked and killed.
Ask Ayaan Hirsi Ali why she needs high security levels round the clock.
Ask the Danish cartoonists who drew cartoons of Muhammad for the Jyllands-Posten why they went into hiding.
And while you're at it, ask Bedier why he takes the time to censor YouTube comments and do little to confront the "Religion of Peace" supporter here:
But I doubt he'll CAIR (couldn't resist) to answer any more than how he had 'answered' Joe Kaufman in the past.
Anti-CAIR shows another instance in which Ahmed Bedier recently deleted some comments on YouTube (scroll to the bottom).
Part of that exchange involved him saying,
"We're as transparent as you get my friend, but people like you only hide behind
Who's hiding now?
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Schools Won't Learn
First, it was Minnesota State University Moorhead
having CAIR-Chicago Executive Director Ahmed Rehab speak at its campus on Tuesday. Now, Northwestern University
is having Sadiya Ahmed, CAIR-Chicago's Governmental Relations Coordinator, to speak at its
American Universities are institutions of education, but in the case of them bringing RADICAL ISLAMISTS ONTO THEIR CAMPUSES TO SPEAK, it seems they need to be educated themselves.What:
A forum on the electoral process, candidate profiles, and civic engagement for college studentsWhen:
Thursday, October 26, 2006; 8:00 p.m.
Speaker: CAIR-Chicago Governmental Relations Coordinator Sadiya Ahmed and other invited guestsWhere:
Norris University Center
1999 Campus Drive
Evanston, IL 60208
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Hussam Ayloush, CAIR's Resident Comedian
Hussam Ayloush, the Executive Director of the Southern California office of CAIR, has taken the liberty to post on his blog his thoughts on CAIR Watch
. Evidently, a reporter had asked him about our group, during a press conference. In his post, Ayloush described CW as a "fringe right-wing group," he called our website "childish," he said we use it to post "false accusations against CAIR and its members," and he used a derogatory term in place of the head of Anti-CAIR Andy Whitehead's name.
While Mr. Ayloush thinks himself a comedian, I would like to remind him of some things that I'm sure he finds not-so-amusing:
The Islamic Association for Palestine (IAP) no longer exists.
The Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) no longer exists.
The United Association for Studies and Research (UASR) no longer exists.
The Global Relief Foundation (GRF) no longer exists.
All of the above groups had affiliations with CAIR, but they are now gone. Mr. Ayloush, with all of your group's ties to terrorism, how long until your office's doors become padlocked as well?
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I have chosen to publish Ahmed Bedier's libelous rant against me
. Ahmed Bedier is the Communications Director for CAIR-Florida. In his rant, he refers to me as being "anti-Muslim" and an "Islamaphobe," neither of which are true. The fact that I fight against and expose those connected to radical Islamic behavior ad terrorism does not make me an Islamaphobe. The organization that Mr. Bedier works for is directly connected to the terrorist organization Hamas. For obvious reasons, he does not like me to discuss this. Therefore, he attempts to minimize my efforts, the organization in which I chair, and me personally.
Bedier, as well, does not like me to expose his own radical behavior. I have called Bedier the "Unofficial Spokesman" for convicted terrorist Sami Al-Arian. Bedier is upset by this, again for obvious reasons. He claims it isn't so, yet he has been the media's go to person for information on Al-Arian, since Al-Arian's arrest early in 2003. He has defended Al-Arian in the media, he has held press conferences for Al-Arian, he has attended Al-Arian rallies, he has attacked the judge that sentenced Al-Arian, and he has given Al-Arian's family and colleagues a forum on his radio show. When Al-Arian received sentence, Bedier even tried to cover up the fact that Al-Arian had pled guilty to terrorism charges.
On a television show, Bedier has defended the likes of Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), the organization that Sami Al-Arian had co-founded and was a leader of. After being asked by the show's hostess, Kathy Fountain, if Sami Al-Arian's association with PIJ was "immoral," Bedier replied, "To a certain degree. Now, before 1995 there was nothing immoral about it." After Americans Against Hate exposed this, Bedier attempted to downplay it by saying that he meant to say "illegal" and not "immoral." He was asked a specific question, and he answered it just as it was asked. And unfortunately for him, it's on video for the world to see.
Bedier, in reality, is a liar. To protect himself and his organization, he practices the Islamic rule of Taqiyya. This is a way to lie, while being absolved of the lies religiously. This is how Bedier is able to say that I have trumped up "FALSE" charges against his group, CAIR. But all that I have said about CAIR is public knowledge. The group was created by a front for Hamas, the group is a defendant in a 9/11 lawsuit for an FBI agent's murder, the group has had four of its officials charged by the US government for terrorist activity, and the group has solicited funds for two organizations shut down by the US government for raising millions of dollars for Hamas and Al-Qaeda. None of this can be disputed, except in Ahmed Bedier's fantasy world. Bedier works for a group with links to terrorism, and Bedier cannot acknowledge this, once again for obvious reasons.
Furthermore, Bedier's July 2006 radio show was entirely devoted to support for Hezbollah. All three of the guests on his show lauded the terrorist group. In fact, one of Bedier's guests even described Hezbollah as being "heroic." Of course, Bedier did not rebut any of what his guests had to say. There is a reason for this. On September 11, 2006 - five years after the attacks - Bedier was quoted as saying about American perception of terrorist groups, "Oftentimes people in the West oversimplify all the groups."
Bedier and his organization have attempted to pull the wool over the media's eyes, the government's eyes, and law enforcement's eyes. CAIR Watch
was created by Americans Against Hate to expose this and to tell the media, the government, and law enforcement that, given CAIR's ties to terrorism, the group should not be granted any type of legitimacy whatsoever. We have enlisted people from all across North America - even across the world - to assist in this endeavor. Bedier's libels and lies will not stop us from reaching our goals.
Chairman of Americans Against Hate
Founder of CAIR Watch
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Saturday's Protest Speech
In case anyone didn't get a chance to read it, here is the speech I gave at Saturday's protest against CAIR, Keith Ellison and Jim Davis, in full. Before you read it, I just want to say one thing. We at CAIR Watch and Americans Against Hate will expose any politician that has dealings with this group. No one gets a pass, nor should they!Joe Kaufman Speech
'CAIR, Keith Ellison and Jim Davis - A Betrayal of the Voters'
October 14, 2006
The Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR was founded by three leaders of a front for the terrorist organization Hamas, in June of 1994. Since its creation:
*Four of CAIR's officials have been charged with terrorist activities, in relation to Hamas and Al-Qaeda. Two of those officials are behind bars in the United States; the other two have been deported. One of them, Ghassan Elashi, was just sentenced, this past Thursday, to seven years in prison. Another CAIR official was listed by the U.S. Attorney's office as a potential co-conspirator to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
*CAIR has solicited money for two terrorist "charities" which were shut down shortly after the attacks on 9/11 for raising millions of dollars for Hamas and Al-Qaeda. Leaders of both these organizations were representatives of CAIR.
*CAIR has been named as a defendant in a lawsuit put forward by the family of the former Chief of the FBI's Counter-Terrorism Section, John P. O'Neill, for his murder during the 9/11 attacks.
*CAIR's parent organization, the Islamic Association for Palestine, in 2005, was shut down after it was found liable for the murder of an American boy, David Boim, during a Hamas terror operation in Israel.
After hearing all of this, one could easily ask the question, "Why would this organization still exist?" It's a good question - one that I have no real answer for.
We're in a War on Terrorism - That's what our government has said, since the attacks that took place on September 11, 2001. We're fighting that war in Afghanistan. We're fighting that war in Iraq. But what our government - and much of our populace - hasn't yet quite grasped is that the war begins at home!
Yes, there have been organizations that have been shut down in America - their assets frozen. And yes, there have been individuals that have been taken into custody in America - many individuals. But not enough groups have been shut down, and not enough individuals have been taken into custody, for if that were the case, CAIR would have been gone five long years ago.
My friends, we are here to protest two individuals who have taken money from leaders of CAIR. But they're not just any individuals - no. They are two people that are seeking high political office within the United States. One is a Minnesota State Representative, Keith Ellison, who is running for United States Congress. And the other is a U.S. Congressman, Jim Davis, who is running for the Governorship of the beautiful state of Florida.
Congressional Candidate Keith Ellison has taken campaign donations from CAIR's National Chairman Parvez Ahmed, CAIR's National Government Affairs Director Corey Saylor, and CAIR's co-founder and National Executive Director Nihad Awad, who in March of 1994 declared, "After I researched the situation inside and outside Palestine, I am in support of the Hamas movement more than the PLO."
Gubernatorial Candidate Jim Davis has accepted a campaign donation from the Communications Director of CAIR-Florida and the Director of CAIR's Tampa office, Ahmed Bedier. This is the same Ahmed Bedier, who in July of 2006, just three months ago, co-hosted a radio program that was devoted entirely to support for Hezbollah. And Bedier, not to be outdone by his Hamas-supporting boss, in December of 2005, after being asked on a television program if there were anything immoral about associating with Palestinian Islamic Jihad, stated, "To a certain degree. Now, before 1995 there was nothing immoral about it." I have to point out to Mr. Bedier that, prior to 1995, Palestinian Islamic Jihad took credit for five terrorist attacks - one via suicide bombing - which resulted in the murders of eight innocent Israelis.
Jim Davis has done this before. In 1998, during his reelection campaign, Congressman Davis accepted a financial contribution from Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader Sami al-Arian, only to donate it to charity years later, after al-Arian was arrested and indicted. Congressman Davis, why go through this embarrassing scenario again?
Within this building, a CAIR sponsored event is taking place, with Keith Ellison as its Keynote Speaker. One of the individuals hosting the event is a man by the name of Altaf Ali. He is the Executive Director of CAIR-Florida. I have had personal dealings with this man. Exactly one month after 9/11, on October 11, 2001, I debated Mr. Ali about the attacks, on a local radio program. During the show, this individual derided me for being Jewish and repeatedly refused to answer the question of whether or not the people that perished in the World Trade Center were innocent.
What kind of monsters are Keith Ellison and Jim Davis looking for support from?!
Shame on you, Representative Ellison, and shame on you, Representative Davis. By accepting this money, you have shown that you are on the wrong side of this war. You have allowed yourselves to be bought by a group connected to terror. What you both have done may be legal, but taking money from these individuals is as immoral as could possibly be. It is wrong, it is a conflict of interest, and it is nothing more than a betrayal of the voters of Minnesota and Florida.
To both of you, I say, "Give back the money! Give back the money! Give back the money!"
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CAIR Watch - Thank-you!
Wow! What a response to CAIR Watch! I want to thank everyone that wrote in to us, asking to be volunteers
. We absolutely need your help in this endeavor. It's been a little overwhelming, but rest assured, everyone will be contacted.
I especially want to thank Daniel Pipes, Militant Islam Monitor, Jihad Watch, Little Green Footballs and Anti-CAIR for helping to get the word out. There were many others as well, and your efforts are much appreciated.
This is all part of the War on Terrorism, and if we come together, we're going to win this war!
Americans Against Hate
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